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Re: DISCUSSION: Same owner Team A Drops Team B bidding (Jay Harrison)
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2014, 04:45:46 PM »
Johnny Collusion!!

shut up, you idiot! Never seen someone cry so much!
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Re: DISCUSSION: Same owner Team A Drops Team B bidding (Jay Harrison)
« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2014, 05:51:11 PM »
We don't want this in the league. Quick discussion...

If you own two teams we can't have you drop a guy and then go and pick him up with your other team?

Why not....because it allows you to essentially make one good team (cut your bad contracts and get discounts)  the weaker team picks up the cut players to create the discount.



Gents let's keep this discussion pro level talk. :judge:

Means gents give a damn which is good.
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Re: DISCUSSION: Same owner Team A Drops Team B bidding (Jay Harrison)
« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2014, 05:53:44 PM »
Johnny Collusion!!


In the pro ranks. Yes.
In fantasy hockey it's smart cap and roster management.
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Re: DISCUSSION: Same owner Team A Drops Team B bidding (Jay Harrison)
« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2014, 06:08:48 PM »
30 teams can bid on him. If you want him bid on him, this isn't a discussion.... it is called FA... first you complain when the team that drops him bids on him, and now you complain when a team that does not drop him bids on him. What washington does and what Edmonton does is in their best interest. Not your best interest. Sounds like you want to run every team in league. Go look at who was spent most on FA since season started.   It has been the Caps and we continue to spend to add the few points Harrison adds (12).

True and true!

The move by :EDM: is good cap management.
Buying out Jay's 4m cap hit is a smart move given his suspect scoring this yr.

Jay's in the Free agent pool and open to all to bid on.
Collusion would be plotting to block Jonathan from bidding to keep his D from improving and possibly reduce his chances of winning the FNHL Stanley Cup with :WAS-NHL3:

It's free agency for Jay Harrison and anyone can outbid Jonathan's :WAS-NHL3: current high bid of 4m.
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Re: DISCUSSION: Same owner Team A Drops Team B bidding (Jay Harrison)
« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2014, 06:15:26 PM »
We don't want this in the league. Quick discussion...

If you own two teams we can't have you drop a guy and then go and pick him up with your other team?

Why not....because it allows you to essentially make one good team (cut your bad contracts and get discounts)  the weaker team picks up the cut players to create the discount.



That's why an owner of 2 or more teams cannot trade directly between his teams.

But tossing a player into the open market where anyone can snatch him is fair play by anyone's definition. If St.Louis thinks Jay Harrison is a game changer, place a higher bid on Harrison. Free agency. Free market. Why would you want to put restrictions and add more conditions.

There's no unfair competitive advantage for EDM or WASH.
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Re: DISCUSSION: Same owner Team A Drops Team B bidding (Jay Harrison)
« Reply #45 on: November 16, 2014, 01:03:26 PM »
It's fine. Leave the rules alone StLu!
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Re: DISCUSSION: Same owner Team A Drops Team B bidding (Jay Harrison)
« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2014, 10:43:49 PM »
I Guess that's the advantage of having a second team, you get more power?

Is Phoenix for sale?

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Re: DISCUSSION: Same owner Team A Drops Team B bidding (Jay Harrison)
« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2014, 03:28:14 PM »
REPOST from another thread but relevant here as well from a league setup perspective:

We have to make cap management tools available to owners to dig themselves out of holes previous owners have dug or ones they've dug themselves.

Otherwise, ppl get frustrated with the cap issues their team face and they decide to abandon the team.

To promote ownership stability and foster long-er term commitment to building winning franchises we have created these tools for owners to use. Call them loopholes but in fantasy play, no one wants to get stuck with too many problems that block them from contending. Buying out, resigning and applying for a Buyout discount are all cap management tools to help teams compete on the fly.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2014, 03:32:46 PM by PigsRule »
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Re: DISCUSSION: Same owner Team A Drops Team B bidding (Jay Harrison)
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2014, 01:48:17 AM »
So it this conversation done. Seems like it.
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