RC Vote - Internal Transfers (RC Members Only Please)

[shooter47]

FGM RC,

As most of you know there was a situation earlier this summer that lead to 2 long time GMs almost leaving the league which forced the RC to vote on internal transfers. The RC voted 4-3 to eliminate internal transfers but partially left internal transfers open for special occasions. The discussion and vote can be found below.

http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=94767.0

The ruling that was passed has resulted in a subjective rule that is open to interpretation and opinion. The ruling was not concrete enough to be easily understood without possible mis-interpretation.

This situation is to great for the commissioner to decide on alone and I ask the RC to please vote on one of the options below so that this situation may finally be put to rest once and for all and FGM will have a concrete approach to Internal Transfers within the league that is easy for everyone to understand.

1)  No Internal Transfers be allowed at any time even under special cases. (This option would be similar to what was previously passed by the RC but eliminates any potential internal transfers due to special cases.

2) Allow Internal Transfers but only during special cases. (At this point in time I am not going to say what special cases will be allowed. If this option is chosen by the RC then at that time the RC will vote on special cases that will allow an internal transfer to happen).

Thanks,

Shooter

[papps]

I vote for option 2.  I believe that there should be internal transfers allowed.  I think that for GM's that have shown loyalty, activity, and good performance should be rewarded.  I know this can lead to hurt feelings for owners that don't get to manage their favorite teams but I still feel that if the special circumstances are met then it should be allowed.

[Flash]

I vote forOption #1 - No internal transfers under any circumstances.

There can be no gray area when it comes to this issue.  We have witnessed in the recent past how hurtful the process can be when existing members are not allowed to transfer to an open team.  Personalities inevitably rear their heads and the potential damage is not worth it.  People say hurtful things, quit--or threaten to quit, and feeling do get hurt.  Is such a thing really necessary or even worth it?  I say no.

When GMs are accepted into the league, there is no proviso saying, "Take this opening and when another one comes up later you can transfer."  GMs come into the league with their eyes wide open and they are approved for a given team.  We all participate for different reasons, but if a league has an opening, and it's a team you "hate", why agree to take it over?

 

[rcankosy]

I vote for option # 1 absent the specific conditions by which we would allow transfers.  I fear that the condition for transfer would not be be one I had in mind when I was the commissioner and left the door open for the remote possibility down the road.

[VolsRaysBucs]

#2 is my vote, however I would give precedent to an owner who has not yet changed teams. I don't want to see a system that just allows GMs to jump from one team to a better one every time one opens up. I feel if a GM has made a move once, that should be it, thus making the decision to stay or move more important. We need GMs who are "all in" with their teams, not just treading water with an eye on greener pastures. As for those who will feel compelled to leave over the outcome, I say let them leave. It really is as simple as that. The league will survive. That being said, I sincerely hope everyone stays on as I think the league is heading in the right direction and the members have much to do with that.

[Colby]

I vote for #2 but let's make it clear where a GM needs X months service time with their current club to become eligible.

[shooter47]

The current vote is:

Option #1 - 2 Votes ( Flash, Rcankosy)

Option #2 - 3 Votes ( Papps, Volsraysbucs, Profsl)

Following RC Members have yet to vote

Shooter47 (Myself)
Bhows
Kungfuwig
BrewersGM

[Colby]

Also, I would have a clear points system for how transfers are awarded.

3 pts for favorite team
2 pts for betterment of league (taking a very bad team)
1 pt for any other transfer

Ties are broken by performance relative to expectations during most recent completed season.  If a team has the 12th highest cap and finished 8th then that is a +4 rating.

[kungfuwig]

I vote option 2 but with a concrete set of parameters around who can transfer and how often. I think an owner MUST be with their team one complete season and only be allowed to transfer teams once during their tenure with FGM. I also believe if a GM leaves the league for one reason or another they can be allowed into the league again once, and not be able to transfer once in. Also they would obviously need to be voted back I to the league. If multiple GM's who fit the guidelines apply we give points on time in the league, contribution, favorite team and a league vote.

[VolsRaysBucs]

I like Freddy's idea of concrete parameters and voting being involved.