RC Discussion on EDR Changes (RC Members only please)

[shooter47]

Since I am posting on changes for 2015 I thought I would post my proposal for changes to the EDR.

The current size of the EDR in FGM is 20 players. The only way for a player to be placed on the EDR is for that team to draft that player in the annual FGM draft.

My proposed changes to the EDR are:

1. Increase the size of the EDR to 30 players.

This change is proposed because larger EDR's will help rebuilding teams. My goal for this would be that teams that are rebuilding would be able to have more prospects in their EDR's which would allow them roster more MLB players on their 40 man rosters.

2. Allow International Free Agents under the age of 18 (Age when signed by FGM team) to be placed on a teams EDR.

Currently in FGM international players aren't typically signed for a while because they have to be rostered on a teams 40 man roster. This rule would increase the value of International FA players and help rebuilding teams sign them without wasting a roster spot on their 40 man roster. I would limit the age to 18 so that teams must sign players when they are younger so that the purpose of the EDR doesn't change (Provide incentive to teams that use the "farm" to build for long term).

3. Allow players on one teams EDR to be placed on another teams EDR when traded.

I brought up this rule for discussion because I have had people ask me about this. I'm not sure if I am in favor of this or not but It would help teams that are trying to rebuild use the EDR more effectively and not waste roster spots on their 40 man rosters.

RC members please discuss these potential changes. Feel free to list which ones you are for/against or feel free to suggest any other changes you think might be wise to make.

Shooter

[papps]

As far as increasing the EDR size to 30, I would be in favor of it.  With 10 rounds of drafts each year and it usually takes 3-5 years I think that an increase in size would be beneficial to the league.  I would vote for an EDR increase.

I also would vote to allow international free agents to be placed on a teams EDR.  Especially ones under the age of 18 years old.  I shy away from signing those young players as they will sit on my 40 man roster for a while.

I would also vote to allow players on one teams EDR to be placed on another teams EDR when traded.  I think this is a no brainer. 

[joeshmoe]

Yes, yes, no

[Flash]

After reading, and considering the merits of BHows' post below, I am modifying my previous post to keep things as they are in regards to the size of our EDR rosters. I vote to keep the EDR rosters at 20.

With the increase of the EDR roster to 30, I would also be in favor of allowing international free agents to be on our EDR rosters.  With our present set-up, it's tough to have a young player, who is years away from contributing to your team, on your 40 man roster. I support allowing International Free Agents under the age of 18 (Age when signed by FGM team) to be placed on a teams EDR.

Allowing players on one teams EDR to be placed on another teams EDR when traded is something I've supported since coming into the league.  Look at how many teams, who are not competitive, have their 40 man rosters filled with players who should be EDRs.  Like papps, I also think this is a no brainer. I support allowing players on one team's EDR to be placed on another team's EDR when traded.

[VolsRaysBucs]

In my opinion, all three of these proposals are no-brainers...I vote a big fat YES to all 3! 

[BHows]

I'm not sure that we need to increase the EDR size. My concern is the unexpected side-effects to the FA pool. One of the things that keeps people interested during the season is the possibility of finding  "lightening in a bottle".
Every year we have a 10 round FYPD and statistics show that we all have players currently on our EDR that will, more than likely, never see a MLB pitch.
From Bleacher Report:
"only 66 percent of first-round picks play in the major leagues."
"For those players drafted in the second round of the draft, the chances of reaching the major leagues drops to 49 percent."
"Rounds 3-5 are a major turning point where the odds begin to drastically decrease, as only 32 percent of players drafted reach the majors."
"And the likelihood of playing in the major leagues continues to worsen, as only 20 percent of players drafted in Rounds 6-10 reach The Show."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1219356-examining-the-percentage-of-mlb-draft-picks-that-reach-the-major-leagues

I would rather keep the EDR at 20 and if you decide to sign a player without having an available EDR spot, drop a player.

I have long been a proponent of allowing traded EDR player be allowed to be placed on the EDR of the acquiring team's EDR and I don't have any issues with Point #2

[Flash]

I'm not sure that we need to increase the EDR size. My concern is the unexpected side-effects to the FA pool. One of the things that keeps people interested during the season is the possibility of finding  "lightening in a bottle".
Every year we have a 10 round FYPD and statistics show that we all have players currently on our EDR that will, more than likely, never see a MLB pitch.
From Bleacher Report:
"only 66 percent of first-round picks play in the major leagues."
"For those players drafted in the second round of the draft, the chances of reaching the major leagues drops to 49 percent."
"Rounds 3-5 are a major turning point where the odds begin to drastically decrease, as only 32 percent of players drafted reach the majors."
"And the likelihood of playing in the major leagues continues to worsen, as only 20 percent of players drafted in Rounds 6-10 reach The Show."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1219356-examining-the-percentage-of-mlb-draft-picks-that-reach-the-major-leagues

I would rather keep the EDR at 20 and if you decide to sign a player without having an available EDR spot, drop a player.

I have long been a proponent of allowing traded EDR player be allowed to be placed on the EDR of the acquiring team's EDR and I don't have any issues with Point #2

BHows' points about keeping the EDRs at 20 are very noteworthy.  I never really considered that we would be taking 300 players out of the free agent pool if we increase the EDR roster to 30.  Since we are discussing the matter, and after thinking it over, I agree with BHows and support keeping the EDR rosters at 20. 

[papps]

If it does come down to keeping the EDR at 20 then why don't we look at reducing the amount of rounds in the draft from 10 to maybe 7?

[shooter47]

The intention of increasing the EDR would be to allow teams to build through the draft more effectively. Players take 3-5 years to develop in the minor leagues so more roster spots gives teams longer looks at players.

The additional roster spots will also allow more teams to roster marginal MLB players and should increase parity across the league. Currently rebuildling teams tend to sign a prospect over a part time MLB player because there is more longterm value to their team if the prospect pans out. I would much rather see the Phillies (Not picking on your team just using it as an example papps) be able to sign more MLB players and not have an entire roster of prospects when rebuilding.

I also don't see this killing the FA market that much. Yes additional players will be owned in the EDR but the only way to get on the EDR is being taken in the Draft or as a very young International player. There will still be tons of in season "surprise" players that will be available on the FA Market. The in season signings are usually players that were lower drafted players who are a little old for prospects and over achieve there projected outcome for a year or two. These players are not likely to be on an EDR in FGM.

[Brent]

I'm not on the RC so I can't vote, but this concerns the league and GMs should be heard.

We don't really have a 20 player minors roster since the EDR is very strict and built through the entry draft only.  BHOWs posted the %'s of who actually makes it and I think that proves the complete opposite point of his.  The current state of most teams EDRs is a joke as most players are never going to make it to the show.  If the EDR is expanded with even some slight changes to the rules of who is allowed on the EDR or change it to a real Minors roster then, IMO, the league will be better off.  I do know that there are some original FGM GMs in the league and they want it to be different from the other leagues and that is cool as well, but the current state of this league doesn't really allow for teams to rebuild and become relevant in a short time.  Traded EDRs should be able to go on the new teams EDR the fact that currently isn't allowed is baffling.