Buyout/Rebid

[JohnnyWeissflog]

To me this whole BO --> rebid is utter BS, and pretty much kills my interest in this otherwise fine league.
I have tried to stay silent for some time already, but really..

Imho buyout should be the final solution for a franchise to deal with a bad or unmanageable contract.

[blkhwkfn]

To me this whole BO --> rebid is utter BS, and pretty much kills my interest in this otherwise fine league.
I have tried to stay silent for some time already, but really..

Imho buyout should be the final solution for a franchise to deal with a bad or unmanageable contract.

[favo_zomg]

The fact that we keep talking about it is making me lose interest in this league. The commissioners have no interest in changing this rule, so why keep bringing it up? Everyone can use it if they want to.

[snugerud]

The fact that we keep talking about it is making me lose interest in this league. The commissioners have no interest in changing this rule, so why keep bringing it up? Everyone can use it if they want to.

Because of the shear workload it creates I have always been surprised Pigs and PPG have kept it around.  As long as the rule is there people will use it.  As long as people use it, someone will inevitably have an issue with it. 

Call me crazy but.....

Since the cap hits have very little teeth, why not consider just getting rid of them all together?  It would make for way less work for the commissioners.  Teams dont have to go through the song and dance of buy him out, rebid,  win, buy him out again he is off my books. 
Look at my team for example...I could have done that with everyone of the players that show as cap hits. ( I didnt because I didnt want to be a D-head)  Almost every player in the league has a value so I dont foresee many circumstances where teams are left with any significant cap hit. At least not enough to warrant the amount of admin work that goes into it. 

[blkhwkfn]

Because of the shear workload it creates I have always been surprised Pigs and PPG have kept it around.  As long as the rule is there people will use it.  As long as people use it, someone will inevitably have an issue with it. 

Call me crazy but.....

Since the cap hits have very little teeth, why not consider just getting rid of them all together?  It would make for way less work for the commissioners.  Teams dont have to go through the song and dance of buy him out, rebid,  win, buy him out again he is off my books. 
Look at my team for example...I could have done that with everyone of the players that show as cap hits. ( I didnt because I didnt want to be a D-head)  Almost every player in the league has a value so I dont foresee many circumstances where teams are left with any significant cap hit. At least not enough to warrant the amount of admin work that goes into it.

I agree. Its really just a waste of time all around.

[snugerud]

I agree. Its really just a waste of time all around.

I wouldnt say a waste of time but I know from commissioning a league myself I would probably be looking for a way to scale back on the workload/transaction volume that this rule creates. 

[PsychoticPondGoons]

Imagine my how damn boring my life would be if I didn't have to listen to this stimulating debate every season. LOL

Those of you mixing up the facts, here they are:

An owner was dismissed for
* constantly challenging a Commissioner's decision the league voted on
* repeated attempts to force his suggestion
* taking a non-issue from a one line zinger and turning it into a federal case
* trying to get a commissioner banned on Profsl because of the above.

We want hockey and cap fans, not crazies.
Check your personal life at the door.
This is fantasy hockey not a day time talk show gents!

[PsychoticPondGoons]

Call me crazy but.....

Crazy! LOL

Its really just a waste of time all around.

B-i-n-g-o
B-i-n-g-o
B-i-n-g-o
 

[PsychoticPondGoons]

Gents!

I hear the same argument and debate.
This is the car wreck lots of gents like slowing down next to and point at.

Here's another stick in the pot to help stir things.

For the owners that say this rule isn't like real life. No sh!t.
This is fantasy hockey.

Where else can you
buy specs and superstars for 200,000$
own Patrick Kane for less than 8 million
Buy a hockey team for 65 bills
Trade superstars and not be blocked by their No Movement clause (at least for another yr)
BO players at will
Rebuild a franchise in a couple of months instead of years, decades

This is fantasy land gents.
The rules are a little different than real life.
Can we make it more like real life. Sure. We can implement a rule where no contract is signed without a player agent and by default could be the commissioners who decide with a new contract or extension matches the value of the player or we can just use real life contract as that barometer.

But that's just more work.

So some owners start shouting well that LOOPHOLE makes more work! BO then resign.

Yes.

But not as much time to process as it would to go find replacement owners because a current owner shoots himself in the foot by overbidding on a player who suddenly sucks or suffers a career ending concussion and his FNHL team is stuck with a 8.4 million cap hit annually until the end of time and the owner quits.

How many times do you hear guys rushing to sign up for a new league so start from scratch, a clean slate without the previous owner's bad moves and contracts and BO cap hits. All the god damn time.

In FNHL, you don't get stuck in a bad cap situation.
There are tools to dig your team out of a bad place.

The BO and rebid move is one of them.
Don't like it.
Don't use it.
Don't bid on the BO player.

The player is a Free agent and anyone can bid on and win his services.
Free market.
Nothing wrong with that.

Want to know what's fake and unreal in other hockey leagues, having less than 30 teams.

That's Bullcr@p fake!
Might as well go play with a barbie doll!

It's just fantasy hockey man.

And if you still feel that strongly about 1 god damn rule and it hurts your feelings, you can't sleep at night well then brother, the fantasy hockey rule is the least of your worries. LOL

[snugerud]

Gents!

I hear the same argument and debate.
This is the car wreck lots of gents like slowing down next to and point at.

Here's another stick in the pot to help stir things.

For the owners that say this rule isn't like real life. No sh!t.
This is fantasy hockey.

Where else can you
buy specs and superstars for 200,000$
own Patrick Kane for less than 8 million
Buy a hockey team for 65 bills
Trade superstars and not be blocked by their No Movement clause (at least for another yr)
BO players at will
Rebuild a franchise in a couple of months instead of years, decades

This is fantasy land gents.
The rules are a little different than real life.
Can we make it more like real life. Sure. We can implement a rule where no contract is signed without a player agent and by default could be the commissioners who decide with a new contract or extension matches the value of the player or we can just use real life contract as that barometer.

But that's just more work.

So some owners start shouting well that LOOPHOLE makes more work! BO then resign.

Yes.

But not as much time to process as it would to go find replacement owners because a current owner shoots himself in the foot by overbidding on a player who suddenly sucks or suffers a career ending concussion and his FNHL team is stuck with a 8.4 million cap hit annually until the end of time and the owner quits.

How many times do you hear guys rushing to sign up for a new league so start from scratch, a clean slate without the previous owner's bad moves and contracts and BO cap hits. All the BooYah! n time.

In FNHL, you don't get stuck in a bad cap situation.
There are tools to dig your team out of a bad place.

The BO and rebid move is one of them.
Don't like it.
Don't use it.
Don't bid on the BO player.

The player is a Free agent and anyone can bid on and win his services.
Free market.
Nothing wrong with that.

Want to know what's fake and unreal in other hockey leagues, having less than 30 teams.

That's Bullcr@p fake!
Might as well go play with a barbie doll!

It's just fantasy hockey man.

And if you still feel that strongly about 1 BooYah! n rule and it hurts your feelings, you can't sleep at night well then brother, the fantasy hockey rule is the least of your worries. LOL

Ha ha,, I love it when we get PPG worked up.  There isnt many times in life that a persons forum name matches them so well. Love the passion. I will probably never be a fan of the buyback, but I understand its place and why its there.  Much like I will never like taxes but I understand why i have to pay them. 

Crazy! LOL

Thats like the Joker calling the Riddler crazy.  I will wait until i hear it from someone else.