Author Topic: DISCUSSION: HOMETOWN DISCOUNT (FNHL)  (Read 2808 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline jackdaniels

  • All-Star
  • ***
  • Join Date: Aug 2011
  • Posts: 2384
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
  • just hand me the bottle!
    • :NE:
    • :Blank:
    • :BOS-NHL:
    • :BostonCollege:
    • :NYRB:
    • View Profile
Re: DISCUSSION: HOMETOWN DISCOUNT (FNHL)
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2015, 05:28:56 PM »
,  i hate the Montreal NHL team and really dont like many of their players. 

:iatp: I also hate Montreal and also :veto: this BUT ONLY FOR :MON-NHL: because the stink up the place. :puke: :rofl:
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
:win: 2016-17 FRANCHISE NHL Champion :BOS-NHL:
:win: 2013-14 FRANCHISE NHL Champion :BOS-NHL:

Offline jackdaniels

  • All-Star
  • ***
  • Join Date: Aug 2011
  • Posts: 2384
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
  • just hand me the bottle!
    • :NE:
    • :Blank:
    • :BOS-NHL:
    • :BostonCollege:
    • :NYRB:
    • View Profile
Re: DISCUSSION: HOMETOWN DISCOUNT (FNHL)
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2015, 05:30:48 PM »
I'm putting an idea out there. PR said he brought it up a while back but I am dusting it off and making it easy to understand.

I suggest we allow for a home town discount of say 25% off on 2 players per team if they meet these 3 simple criteria:

1) Drafted by the FNHL (worked their way up the system or drafted-traded-resigned via trade or FA)
2) Actually play for the same team in the NHL as they do in FNHL
3) Contract value is over $4.0 million (could be $3m)



:iatp: its got legs baby!

funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
:win: 2016-17 FRANCHISE NHL Champion :BOS-NHL:
:win: 2013-14 FRANCHISE NHL Champion :BOS-NHL:

Offline jackdaniels

  • All-Star
  • ***
  • Join Date: Aug 2011
  • Posts: 2384
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
  • just hand me the bottle!
    • :NE:
    • :Blank:
    • :BOS-NHL:
    • :BostonCollege:
    • :NYRB:
    • View Profile
Re: DISCUSSION: HOMETOWN DISCOUNT (FNHL)
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2015, 05:31:37 PM »
I like the proposal. :iatp:

In all honesty I doubt a restriction will need to be place on contract value that this discount can be applied to.

Most owners will optimize their savings by applying it to their most expensive player especially if the team is only allowed to designate the players once per year.

Agree with DD here.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
:win: 2016-17 FRANCHISE NHL Champion :BOS-NHL:
:win: 2013-14 FRANCHISE NHL Champion :BOS-NHL:

Offline jackdaniels

  • All-Star
  • ***
  • Join Date: Aug 2011
  • Posts: 2384
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
  • just hand me the bottle!
    • :NE:
    • :Blank:
    • :BOS-NHL:
    • :BostonCollege:
    • :NYRB:
    • View Profile
Re: DISCUSSION: HOMETOWN DISCOUNT (FNHL)
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2015, 05:36:27 PM »
As far as the look of the contracts go I'd like to point out that there's no need for an HTD label as the team icon makes it redundant. I'd also argue that rather than 2 home town discounts per year we set a cap at just two players max per team (at any given time) that can be designated as home town discount eligible.

Max Domi, $2.0m (2014-2015-EL) :COL-NHL:

So every time Max comes up for an extension he gets the discount. If he gets traded or released to free-agency then a new HTD slot becomes available.

It would also be really cool to have to nominate these players in the prospect stage, sometime between being drafted and having their EL contracts run out. (ie. No current superstars!)

Clean, fun, simple. 

I think the original contract needs to be tracked in case the player gets traded.

Slack how would you nominate. Guess its symantecs. Label the player while they are in the MiLR?

PPG how do you track players originally drafted by a team that qualify for the HTD? Would you start adding the team icon to each MiLR player or I guess the easier way is look up the draft list and trace it from that pt on?
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
:win: 2016-17 FRANCHISE NHL Champion :BOS-NHL:
:win: 2013-14 FRANCHISE NHL Champion :BOS-NHL:

Offline jackdaniels

  • All-Star
  • ***
  • Join Date: Aug 2011
  • Posts: 2384
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
  • just hand me the bottle!
    • :NE:
    • :Blank:
    • :BOS-NHL:
    • :BostonCollege:
    • :NYRB:
    • View Profile
Re: DISCUSSION: HOMETOWN DISCOUNT (FNHL)
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2015, 05:51:22 PM »
Guidelines:
a. Non transferable
b. Renewable annually at Contract rollover
c. If that player gets traded in the NHL you retains the hometown discount until contract rollover


The Team page label would look like this with the actual contract value after the team logo:

EXAMPLE
For :VAN: Canucks:
Daniel Sedin, $3.9m (2013-2016-FP-1:VAN:-5.1)
Alexander Edler, $5.2m (2013-2017-FP-2:VAN:-6.9)

For :LAK: Kings:
Drew Doughty, $5.3m (2013-2017-FP-1:LAK:-7.0)
Jonathan Quick, $4.5m (2013-2017-FP-2:LAK:-5.9)

When would this start if we do it?
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
:win: 2016-17 FRANCHISE NHL Champion :BOS-NHL:
:win: 2013-14 FRANCHISE NHL Champion :BOS-NHL:

Offline SlackJack

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2012
  • Posts: 5144
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
  • Director of Media Relations
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :PHI-NHL:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: DISCUSSION: HOMETOWN DISCOUNT (FNHL)
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2015, 05:54:21 PM »
Quote
I think the original contract needs to be tracked in case the player gets traded.

Slack how would you nominate. Guess its symantecs. Label the player while they are in the MiLR?

I'll always opt for the simplest approach so I'd lean towards nominating/branding at the time the player is drafted. It'd be a gamble and there is nothing wrong with that. Certainly this keeps us from having to track every single draftee moving forward.

As far as tracking the original contract, I don't think it is necessary. If I trade Max Domi away and he is on a favourable contract then my trade partner gets the savings for the remainder of the contract. Just delete the Avs icon and move him along.

I don't think we'd be facing a ton of 'sign and trade' scenarios especially if we had to nominate from the time they are drafted, as in most cases it will take several years for a prospect to start making an impact. Even if it does drive a few larger contracts down the over-all effect will still be less than if we are able to nominate 2 HTD's per year.

« Last Edit: May 07, 2015, 05:56:25 PM by SlackJack »
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
:SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL:  2015-16, 2017-18, 2018-19, 2019-20 Backyard NHL Stanley Cup Champion :STL-NHL:

Offline PigsRule

  • League Moderator
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 7161
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :blank:
    • View Profile
Re: DISCUSSION: HOMETOWN DISCOUNT (FNHL)
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2015, 09:37:25 PM »
I'm putting an idea out there. PR said he brought it up a while back but I am dusting it off and making it easy to understand.

I suggest we allow for a home town discount of say 25% off on 2 players per team if they meet these 3 simple criteria:

1) Drafted by the FNHL (worked their way up the system or drafted-traded-resigned via trade or FA)
2) Actually play for the same team in the NHL as they do in FNHL
3) Contract value is over $4.0 million (could be $3m)



:iatp: :iatp: :iatp:
100% behind this. Get everyone else on board.

Great idea!!!
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
Florida Panthers ... link to team page

2023-24 FRANCHISE NHL PAYOUT TO CHAMPION ... :money: $530.00USD :money:
ONLY THE BEST OWNERS WANTED


Offline dickiedunn

  • All-Star
  • ***
  • Join Date: Nov 2011
  • Posts: 1638
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: DISCUSSION: HOMETOWN DISCOUNT (FNHL)
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2015, 12:42:56 AM »
:LAK: and :OTT: approve. :iatp:
We support this proposal.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

Offline SlackJack

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2012
  • Posts: 5144
  • Bonus inPoints: 0
  • Director of Media Relations
    • :Blank:
    • :Blank:
    • :PHI-NHL:
    • :Blank:
    • View Profile
Re: DISCUSSION: HOMETOWN DISCOUNT (FNHL)
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2015, 12:51:55 AM »
Quote
2) Actually play for the same team in the NHL as they do in FNHL
3) Contract value is over $4.0 million (could be $3m)

Again, I like the idea generally but these stipulations are not needed. See my post above.
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions
:SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL: :SC-NHL:  2015-16, 2017-18, 2018-19, 2019-20 Backyard NHL Stanley Cup Champion :STL-NHL:

Offline Jonathan

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Aug 2011
  • Posts: 21700
  • Bonus inPoints: 103
    • :PHI-NFL:
    • :Blank:
    • :CAR-NHL:
    • View Profile
Re: DISCUSSION: HOMETOWN DISCOUNT (FNHL)
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2015, 02:05:17 AM »
Can I trade my city  :rofl:
« Last Edit: May 08, 2015, 02:11:35 AM by Jonathan »
funny
0
like
0
dislike
0
No reactions
No reactions
No reactions

 


* FNHL Chat

Sorry, this shoutbox does not exist.

Forum Search


Quick Profile

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

* Chat Room

Refresh History
  • Rob: Hopefully you're not what I think you are
    Yesterday at 01:46:33 PM
  • Rob: Which is, Zach Wilson.
    Yesterday at 01:46:38 PM
  • janesvilleaces: Daddy pm
    Yesterday at 01:54:14 PM
  • Renegade: So what’s happening
    Yesterday at 03:54:16 PM
  • Renegade: My 1st time playing college football fantasy
    Yesterday at 03:56:40 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: @Rob ive seen that take a few times. “Drake Maye=Zach Wilson”. Thats not how i see it. The Physical tools and demeanor alone are very different between the two. I like maye alot
    Yesterday at 03:58:58 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Are you a patriots fan @rob ?
    Yesterday at 03:59:21 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: Jwalkejr88 pm
    Yesterday at 04:01:47 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: jwalkerjr88 replied back
    Yesterday at 04:18:37 PM
  • indiansnation: Good evening all which league we talking trade.
    Yesterday at 04:47:08 PM
  • Mt_Crushmore: im nfl
    Yesterday at 04:47:43 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Understood BAB
    Yesterday at 05:00:25 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Always NFL Brian
    Yesterday at 05:00:36 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: Yepp
    Yesterday at 05:06:57 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: Can't wait to see the madness
    Yesterday at 05:10:27 PM
  • Daddy: God im sooooooo busy today. Im trying to get errands and profsl done before the draft :doh:
    Yesterday at 06:05:24 PM
  • Daddy: There is no way but im gonna keep at it.
    Yesterday at 06:06:27 PM
  • BayAreaBallers: as long as u r here for draft
    Yesterday at 06:08:49 PM
  • janesvilleaces: Go pack go
    Yesterday at 07:26:45 PM
  • Daddy: I thought i had converted you to a Ram fan by now @janes (insert eye emoji)
    Yesterday at 07:35:47 PM
  • Braves155: Sup guys
    Yesterday at 07:35:57 PM
  • Daddy: NFL DRAFT second only to the NFL LIVE Draft in entertainment!
    Yesterday at 08:52:12 PM
  • Daddy: 8/1/24 8PM Change your NFL LIVE teams future with these guys right here!
    Yesterday at 08:52:53 PM
  • Mt_Crushmore: Plan on it.
    Yesterday at 09:25:23 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Interesting developments so far. If you need a QB in NFL Live. Plenty of them have 1st round pedigree
    Yesterday at 10:53:26 PM
  • Daddy: NFL LIVE Draft Room [link] current picks, 2024 preview & history.
    Yesterday at 11:06:17 PM
  • Braves155: Daddy, what are your thoughts on the NFL Draft thus far?
    Yesterday at 11:34:39 PM
  • Braves155: Or anyone, what ya think?
    Yesterday at 11:35:07 PM
  • dbreer23: Vegeta100 PM
    Yesterday at 11:40:43 PM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Alot of surprised tonight as expected. Offensive heavy. 6 QBs in the 1st. 7 WRs. Fun night
    Today at 12:52:03 AM
  • Jwalkerjr88: Alot of NFL Live implications. Cant wait to see it unfold. On to night 2
    Today at 12:52:28 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: i wish we took cooper Frick
    Today at 01:05:02 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: we coulda waited on pearsall
    Today at 01:05:12 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: as much as i do like him a bit cuz he was dceent at ASU and solid at UF
    Today at 01:05:26 AM
  • Daddy: Who is cooper Frick? What position he play
    Today at 02:57:55 AM
  • Brent: BAB, yeah, Cooper is a beast.
    Today at 07:21:11 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: Daddy I was just expressing my displeasure that we passed on cooper dejean. I strongly felt cb was a bigger need or ol than wr
    Today at 10:28:14 AM
  • Daddy: I get it
    Today at 10:39:43 AM
  • Daddy: I dont understand everything i saw last night. The biggest winner to me was Gardner Minshew
    Today at 10:40:41 AM
  • Daddy: Raiders, Atlanta both should have traded back if they were gonna do what they did. IMO
    Today at 10:41:23 AM
  • Daddy: Atlanta could have fleeced Minny and let them draft JJ #6 then still get Penix before Denver/LV
    Today at 10:42:24 AM
  • Daddy: Its like Brian is running the Raiders.
    Today at 10:43:02 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: ya know what speaking of gardener I did trade for him this off-season
    Today at 10:46:49 AM
  • BayAreaBallers: I honestly wouldn't have minded pearsall but I saw him as a Rd 2 target not Rd 1. Great to see another former alumni join the niners.
    Today at 10:48:21 AM
  • Daddy: 49ers made a smart pick IMO.
    Today at 02:25:27 PM
  • Daddy: Their WRs need contracts and Deebo has been used a lot for a guy his size already.
    Today at 02:26:18 PM
  • Daddy: They cant and wont keep them all beyond this year.
    Today at 02:27:17 PM
  • Daddy: Plenty of Defense left. Only 9 guys on D got drafted last night. NONE of them will be 1st rd picks in LIVE. In fact i dont think a D player gets drafted at all in LIVE till round 3.
    Today at 02:29:01 PM
  • Daddy: If you want a S or CB @BAB your Niners will get one.
    Today at 02:30:45 PM
  • Daddy: If anyone questions the potency or quality of Colorado marijuana, i got two words for you. Bo Nix
    Today at 02:32:52 PM