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Re: RC Vote - Internal Transfers (RC Members Only Please)
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2013, 08:23:29 PM »
Since I am the subject of this debate I'd love to recuse myself from this discussion but I signed up for the RC so here's my two-cents:
It was decided a few short months ago that switching teams within FGM would no longer be permitted. There was an afterthought, however, that would allow such a maneuver if:
A.) A proven, competent GM was willing switch teams in order to rebuild or, B.) The club in question was a someones favorite team.
The Cubs are far from destitute. It would be a major step forward for Brent and, at best, a sideways step for Jeff. Not that either don't deserve it but those are the rules.
The favorite team aspect has very little credence with me. As far a I can tell the Cubs have few, if any, real life Cubs players on their roster. As with the all of the teams in FGM, it's the team in name only.
I believe Brent is a conscientious, knowledgeable owner and has the Angels headed in the right direction but as I interpret the rule I have to go with Option #1.
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RC Vote - Internal Transfers (RC Members Only Please)
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2013, 12:19:27 AM »
Rick, I will say this about the favorite team.  While it may just be a team name, the caps of teams make them very realistic.  Add in division rivalries and you have a feel that you are GMing the real club.
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2013, 07:21:53 AM »
I think defining parameter might be tricky, but perhaps we require something like X number of nominations from the RC (4?).  Then if someone who is truly a longtime member with lots of contributions recognized by the league wants to move, they'll get support. 

If we could agree on something simple like that, I'd vote option #2.  If we need a complex system I'd think it would still lead to loopholes and issues I'd say forget it lets just go with #1.
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Re: RC Vote - Internal Transfers (RC Members Only Please)
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2013, 02:17:46 PM »
The current vote is:

Option #1 - 3 Votes (:SF: Flash, :TEX: Rcankosy, :LAD: BHows)

Option #2 - 4 Votes (:PHI: Papps, :TB: Volsraysbucs, :PIT: Profsl, :KC: Kungfuwig)

Following RC Members have yet to vote

:BAL: Shooter47 (Myself)
:MIL: BrewersGM

If Option 1 passes internal transfers will not be allowed. If option 2 passes then the next step would be to have the RC vote on what special cases or situations will allow internal transfers (Betterment of the league, Favorite team, Etc.) If no option gets the 5 votes needed then internal options will not be allowed. If any special cases do pass then the RC will next need to vote on what will be the requirements that a GM must meet to be eligible for an internal Transfer.

The other problem that must be determined that goes along with this topic is how GM's will be decided on in the future. Does an internal candidate who qualifies for a transfer take precedent over outside candidates? If there are two or more managers who qualify for an internal transfer to an open team how do we settle who will be the manager to transfer?

It is my opinion that GM openings should be determined by the RC. I would prefer a simple voting system where the RC votes on candidates for the open position. I would favor a system where current GM's do not take precedence over outside candidates. I think all positions should be offered to the best candidate for the job. If there is only one candidate they would need to receive 5 yes votes from the RC to become the new GM. If there are two candidates then the RC would vote and the candidate with 5 or more votes would become the new GM. If there are 3 or more candidates then the RC would vote and the two candidates who receive the most votes would then go to another vote to determine the new GM. This system would be simple to implement but is a more subjective system that could lead to hurt feelings.

Im not sure how well a point system for internal transfers would work. Performance relative to expectations in this league would be a hard thing to judge. Basing this solely on finish related to cap ranking would not be a good thing in my opinion. GM's who take over a team like the Angels who have a high cap and perform poorly would be punished by a previous owner. This ranking would say they should be performing good because they have a high cap but they are a very poor team and it will take time to re-build them to a successful franchise.
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Re: RC Vote - Internal Transfers (RC Members Only Please)
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2013, 01:45:26 PM »
It is my opinion that GM openings should be determined by the RC. I would prefer a simple voting system where the RC votes on candidates for the open position. I would favor a system where current GM's do not take precedence over outside candidates. I think all positions should be offered to the best candidate for the job.

I am in favor of this.  Perhaps we can expand to include the TC in addition to the RC so there is a larger pool of GM's voting and we have less room for favoritism (or perceived favoritism).
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Re: RC Vote - Internal Transfers (RC Members Only Please)
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2013, 07:37:29 PM »
I am in favor of this.  Perhaps we can expand to include the TC in addition to the RC so there is a larger pool of GM's voting and we have less room for favoritism (or perceived favoritism).

To clarify, this is a vote for Option 2.
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Re: RC Vote - Internal Transfers (RC Members Only Please)
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2013, 07:43:46 PM »
The current vote is:

Option #1 - 3 Votes (:SF: Flash, :TEX: Rcankosy, :LAD: BHows)

Option #2 - 5 Votes (:PHI: Papps, :TB: Volsraysbucs, :PIT: Profsl, :KC: Kungfuwig, BrewersGM :MIL:)

Option #2 has been chosen. Internal transfers will be allowed in special cases. The RC will now vote on what those special cases are.

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