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Is this thread okay. To discuss the ongoings of Free Agency? Things like 20m for David Wright, CHW making a power move for the best available talent.
Or how seemingly everyone wants in on the deep 2014 class of FA CI?
There is so much going on; and it's exciting. :thumbsup:
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Is this thread okay. To discuss the ongoings of Free Agency? Things like 20m for David Wright, CHW making a power move for the best available talent.
Or how seemingly everyone wants in on the deep 2014 class of FA CI?
There is so much going on; and it's exciting. :thumbsup:
Sounds good Green Lantern.
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It is fun, lots of action. Poor broke :CHC: can't afford any FA's
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It is fun, lots of action. Poor broke :CHC: can't afford any FA's
I'm not sure I'd call a 128M budget "broke," maybe "cash poor," but definitely not broke :rofl:
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Haha, ya.....however you call it, all the money is spent already :toast:
I'm not sure I'd call a 128M budget "broke," maybe "cash poor," but definitely not broke :rofl:
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A few things I have noticed:
1) Albert Pujols for 5 years at 17m is a stunner; can he play five more years? Pirates must be thinking about the now and intending to eat some of that salary later on.
2) Mark Teixiera for 5 @ 10m is another stunner. Can the wrist still perform to make this worth?
3) Jose Abreau is on track for 17m a year over 5 years. That's a ton of money for a guy who's never seen a MLB pitch.
4) Corner Infield is a premium in this league and that's why even though this is a deep class it is commanding serious money. Wright, Encarnacion, Zimmerman, Pujols, Teixiera, Dunn, Laroche, Abreau; the names are out there this year. Maybe in years past where Brad Hawpe made off like a bandit, someone like Brett Wallace might have made 10m a year. The impact is definitely there.
5) Also, how does this affect CI extension values. It should cause the middle 20-60 CI to increase in value overall, shouldn't it?
6) How does the money spent for CI impact the coming P FA madness? There are a few big names available for P as well.
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The inflated CI dollars is one reason we should give serious consideration to opening up free agency to all positions at the same time.
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The inflated CI dollars is one reason we should give serious consideration to opening up free agency to all positions at the same time.
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The inflated CI dollars is one reason we should give serious consideration to opening up free agency to all positions at the same time.
Instead of all at once I'd be open to opening infielders, then outfielders, then pitchers. If we do it in three groups I think that would work well. All at once can get crazy to keep track of bids.
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Instead of all at once I'd be open to opening infielders, then outfielders, then pitchers. If we do it in three groups I think that would work well. All at once can get crazy to keep track of bids.
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Instead of all at once I'd be open to opening infielders, then outfielders, then pitchers. If we do it in three groups I think that would work well. All at once can get crazy to keep track of bids.
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I like our free agency phases. It allows you to compete on one position at a time.
Pujols is the biggest Pirates free agent signing in 20 years. I have not made a move, or been able to make one like that, in FGM since the league started 5 years ago. While $15m/year for 5 years is expensive, I felt Pujols had a bad year in Anaheim due to issues adjusting without his kids in town (they were finishing the school year back in STL). With the kids moved, I bet he doesn't start off in a slump and returns to his form of old. I don't think that form will last all five years, but I think I can get great contributions from him for 2-3 years.
I spoke to Big Al today over the phone and welcomed him to the franchise. He thinks Mike Olt has talent and will mentor him. He is excited to rejoin former teammate Pete Kozma and likes what he sees in Gyorko. Albert knows its a young team with others such as Wieters and Revere. I promised him we will seek to add a couple more veteran bats - likely outfielders - as the winter meetings continue.
The other big worry in Pittsburgh is pitching. Once again, a lot of young talent, but we're unsure who will get the jobs in spring training. A couple starters are expected to be signed in free agency, but nothing too flashy like this Pujols signing. Then again, the Buccos still have almost $20m in cap room and have a bunch of trade leverage.
We also have the 6th pick in the draft in 2014 and a restocked farm with plenty of top picks from the past two years. As a GM of this franchise, I haven't been able to see the team make the playoffs. 2012 was a big season but the Buccos fell just short of the post-season. The build of the team from 2010-12 was based on veterans on manageable contracts. The farm was sold and players like McCutchen and Walker were sold along with the specs. 2013 was a rebuilding year, and I will pick my spots in 2014 to do what I can, but I think this team has a good short-term future and a brilliant long-term future. Hopefully some wins this season and the next will allow the cap to start to increase again, just in time for the team to be a perennial World Series contender on a short budget.
RAISE THE JOLLY ROGER FGM :PIT:
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The inflated CI dollars is one reason we should give serious consideration to opening up free agency to all positions at the same time.
I would like to think in FGM, owners have a long-term plan in mind and something like the order of introducing FA's will certainly not sway market prices so heavily. Maybe I'm naive, but if you look at the teams who have been most successful in the past it's clear that patience and long-term thinking is critical.
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I agree going into free agency should have a plan and back up. How players go on block shouldn't matter, you should have a amount you spend for guys you want if goes to high back up plan. Pitchers are talked about as being worth least amount in value no reason they shouldn't be last up help keep salaries down little anyway.
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The Angels sucked when I took them over and I am in the middle of a rebuild. I'm going to bring talent in whatever way possible and if that is grabbing a CI or two then that is what I'll do. These guys have value and value is what I need to build this team. Unused cap space with no value on the team is useless and doesn't allow me to do anything with the team.
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I agree going into free agency should have a plan and back up. How players go on block shouldn't matter, you should have a amount you spend for guys you want if goes to high back up plan. Pitchers are talked about as being worth least amount in value no reason they shouldn't be last up help keep salaries down little anyway.
That's actually a valid point.
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:PIT: Rumors
- According to management, Pastornicky has leaped past Forsythe in the MI depth chart and will battle Kozma for the starting job. Pujols likes Pastornicky, but favors his old teammate Kozma.
- Matt LaPorta is floundering in the Gulf of Mexico trying to swim ashore and make Spring Training next month.
- Outfielder Caleb Gindl shows promise and could very well be the third starting outfielder. It's no secret that the Pirates will pursue at least two free agent outfielders.
- Wieters needs a backup and doesn't want a mentor. Pujols agreed and the Bucs go after FA C Jose Molina. Albert played with his brother Yadier for many years and knows what a Molina can do.
- Rumor is that Albert Pujols is also the assistant GM of the Pirates.
- SP James McDonald is seeking to return to the major leagues. He only turns 30 and is a year removed from a brilliant 2012 campaign. If push comes to shove, the front office may have to release him to get another roster spot and pick up cap space for a free agent to replace him.
- Ottavino is favored for the closer's job. Pujols says he won't be needed in that role because he will crush the National League.
- Worley is currently the ace which is clearly a massive problem.
:PIT: Biggest remaining needs = OF, SP, backup C
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I saw David Wright as the best available player in free agency and decided I would lay down a doomsday bid on him. As Trumbo loses his Ci eligibility in the desert, a CI spot was opened up for Wright. My squad still has a hole at Catcher and MI but did not view Martin and Reyes as players we wanted around. Wright, Alvarez, Trumbo, Ajax, and Yelich are a nice core for the next few years... Adding a few more pieces to this core might give me the opportunity to do what I never was able to as GM of the Reds, and that is finish higher than third. Morales and Cozart are decent players to have around, and I should have at least three decent starters. We shall see how things come around as depth is not a strong point.
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E2 is a welcome addition to the lineup in the Bronx he wasn't a need but we also wanted to add another big bat and he is one of the tops available. Few more moves to come!
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The Angels were able to add both Zimmerman and Abreu at CI. With Chris Davis already on the roster that solidifies our CI/UT positions and with three roster positions we are expecting over 100 HRs and 300 RBIs which will go a long way in pulling the Angels out of the cellar.
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The Dodgers haven't made a big splash in free agency this year but have chosen to go the trade route instead. So far I feel like I've done a decent job of filling a lot of the holes that needed to be filled. If Lind can approach the year he had last year and Butler can come back from an "off" year I'll have more versatility than last year at CI/UT. Chatwood gives me 4-1/2 SP until Holland comes back so my rotation is in pretty good shape. Probably still looking for another though, depending on the market.
I don't know how long this fiscally responsible attitude will last because I still need a backup MI and maybe an OF. Should be interesting.
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The Angels were able to add both Zimmerman and Abreu at CI. With Chris Davis already on the roster that solidifies our CI/UT positions and with three roster positions we are expecting over 100 HRs and 300 RBIs which will go a long way in pulling the Angels out of the cellar.
Strong CI core!
Gaby Sanchez feels like a winner after the Pirates didn't sign another CI. His job isn't safe though as some other infielders could take it OR the Buccos could trade for a CI.
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-San Diego made early plays in the CI market but not a lick materialized into an actual signing. Daric Barton is brought in on a three year contract, for a 28 year old, starting DH. 3 years at 2m will not be a bad contract, very cut-able as well.
-San Diego also decided to make a big spend on a bonus for the prospect contract of Zach Walters. Walters showed flash with his bat, and we were willing to take a chance by spending big this year to see how he'll play in the MLB. 9m is certainly a large bonus, but SD would much rather spend a lot in the short term and potentially have a cheap contract in the long run.
-With the kids maturing quickly (Baez, Meyer, Soler), Rizzo, Villar and Perez are already at the MLB level, it is important the the Padres continue to add inexpensive and young talent to the fold. To rebuild the Padres was always going to be about the kids in the farm. This should be the final year of that rebuild! 2015 is looking good!
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The inflated CI dollars is one reason we should give serious consideration to opening up free agency to all positions at the same time.
Given the fact I need a decent CI, I have been bidding on Adam LaRoche and submitted a bid that would be $10 (2017). This was after I was engaged in a mild bidding war with Roy of the Texas Rangers (sounds like a TV program). I've been having some "bidder's remorse" for the past 71 hours and 46 minutes--that is until Roy swooped in and placed a higher bid with 14 minutes to go. :doh: Without any other CIs available, do I pursue and overpay--or look elsewhere? Do I wait until January 26th at 9:38 pm to make a higher bid on a player who is not really an impact player or do I thank Roy for saving me from myself?
Hmmmm....what to do? :koolaid:
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Given the fact I need a decent CI, I have been bidding on Adam LaRoche and submitted a bid that would be $10 (2017). This was after I was engaged in a mild bidding war with Roy of the Texas Rangers (sounds like a TV program). I've been having some "bidder's remorse" for the past 71 hours and 46 minutes--that is until Roy swooped in and placed a higher bid with 14 minutes to go. :doh: Without any other CIs available, do I pursue and overpay--or look elsewhere? Do I wait until January 26th at 9:38 pm to make a higher bid on a player who is not really an impact player or do I thank Roy for saving me from myself?
Hmmmm....what to do? :koolaid:
Let Roy regret that contract.
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Given the fact I need a decent CI, I have been bidding on Adam LaRoche and submitted a bid that would be $10 (2017). This was after I was engaged in a mild bidding war with Roy of the Texas Rangers (sounds like a TV program). I've been having some "bidder's remorse" for the past 71 hours and 46 minutes--that is until Roy swooped in and placed a higher bid with 14 minutes to go. :doh: Without any other CIs available, do I pursue and overpay--or look elsewhere? Do I wait until January 26th at 9:38 pm to make a higher bid on a player who is not really an impact player or do I thank Roy for saving me from myself?
Hmmmm....what to do? :koolaid:
POACHED!!!!! I'd count my blessings if I were you Flash, that contract could turn into an albatross.
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Your better off! Trust me I am king of giving contracts out that shouldnt be given!
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Your better off! Trust me I am king of giving contracts out that shouldnt be given!
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Your better off! Trust me I am king of giving contracts out that shouldnt be given!
Hence why you have the Yankees...
I don't get the high bids on LaRoche... Not worth it IMO
Buccos now have Pujols, AGon, and cap room... Watch out FGM
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Hence why you have the Yankees...
I don't get the high bids on LaRoche... Not worth it IMO
Buccos now have Pujols, AGon, and cap room... Watch out FGM
Are you gonna crush this league Colb?
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Here goes pitching!
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I'm surprised that David Murphy (http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=136314.0) is already at $9m. I offer him on the trade block last year with a cash exchange that would equal that contract or less and no one bit.
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I'm surprised that David Murphy (http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?topic=136314.0) is already at $9m. I offer him on the trade block last year with a cash exchange that would equal that contract or less and no one bit.
I'm not surprised. There are always overpaid guys in FA which is why I'm not a big fan of building my team that way. FA is good for about 1 or 2 guys but if you need more then that I'm sure it will hurt your cap later.
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FA is good for about 1 or 2 guys but if you need more then that I'm sure it will hurt your cap later.
Pirates are using free agency to fill about five spots. Pujols feels that the GM is doing the right thing as current rumors are that a couple outfields will be brought in on small ball deals. With Ben, Caleb, and a couple free agent veterans, the outfield can be considered below average, but not so bad that it drags down the team.
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Jeff Baker has been announced as a starting outfielder for the Pirates. The fans aren't enthusiastic about the acquisition, but you can only expect so much after an off-season that involved going after Pujols and AGon. The Pirates are rumored to be talking to Jason Kubel who is also taking interest from the divisional rival Cardinals.
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Not FA related, but Mat Gamel are you frigging kidding me? :rool:
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Decided to let Alfonso Soriano walk as soon as I heard a rumor he might retire after the season. With the buyout rules on this site, not a contract I wanted to be stuck with.
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Decided to let Alfonso Soriano walk as soon as I heard a rumor he might retire after the season. With the buyout rules on this site, not a contract I wanted to be stuck with.
When you have 100+ to spend a dead 4-5m isn't a big deal. Especially if you're trying to win now. Padres could never afford that much dead weight into the future.
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The listing below, taken from the A and B Free Agents page, is great. Ben (BrewersGM) year after year mops up early picks. It is amazing to me. Kudos Ben. If only we could all get 500 extra picks every season. :thumbsup:
Type A Free Agents
CI David Wright :LAD: - Signed by :CHW: - :LAD: Gets 2 Compensation Picks
SP Cliff Lee :NYY: - Signed by :MIL: - :NYY: Gets :MIL: 1st Rounder and 1 compensation Pick
SP Homer Bailey :MIL: - Signed by :CHW: - :MIL: Gets 2 Compensation Picks
SP Anibal Sanchez :MIL: - Signed by :CLE: - :MIL: Gets :CLE: 1st Rounder and 1 Compensation Pick
RP Koji Uehara :KC: - Signed by :HOU: - :KC: Gets 2 Compensation Picks
RP Mark Melancon :BAL: - Signed by :CHC: - :BAL: Gets :CHC: 1st Rounder and 1 Compensation Pick
RP Chad Gaudin :BOS:
RP Tommy Hunter :SEA: - Signed by :CLE: - :SEA: Gets 2 Compensation Picks
RP Alfredo Simon :MIN: - Signed by :BAL: - :MIN: Gets 2 Compensation Picks
Type B Free Agents
CI Edwin Encarnacion :TEX: - Signed by :NYY: - :TEX: Gets 1 Compensation Pick
OF Marlon Bryd :ARZ:
OF Torii Hunter :MIL:
SP Mike Leake :MIL: - Signed by :HOU: - :MIL: Gets 1 Compensation Pick
SP Kyle Lohse :MIA-MLB: - Signed by :PIT: - :MIA-MLB: Gets 1 Compensation Pick
RP Brad Ziegler :PIT: - Signed by :CLE: - :PIT: Gets 1 Compensation Pick
RP Ryan Webb :COL: - Signed by :KC: - :COL: Gets 1 Compensation Pick
RP Fernando Rodney :TB: - Signed by :NYY: - :TB: Gets 1 Compensation Pick
RP Dane De La Rosa :LAA: - Signed by :CLE: - :LAA: Gets 1 Compensation Pick
RP Jeanmar Gomez :SD: - Signed by :ARZ: - :SD: Gets 1 Compensation Pick
RP Matt Belisle :CLE: - Signed by :BAL: - :CLE: Gets 1 Compensation Pick
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The listing below, taken from the A and B Free Agents page, is great. Ben (BrewersGM) year after year mops up early picks. It is amazing to me. Kudos Ben. If only we could all get 500 extra picks every season. :thumbsup:
Edwin Encarnacion missed being a Type A free agent by .08 points! He would have been top 10 easily if he had not missed nearly the last most of the season due to injury.
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I think RP compensation is way out of whack.
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:NYY: adds another solid SP in Hammels now just need a MI
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:TB: was able to land the entire LF platoon of RL Rays (DeJesus/Guyer) for 5.5m total as well as add six pitchers (Storen, Qualls, Frasor, Ohlendorf, Hellweg, Neimann) for 3m total. For those scoring at home, that's half a bullpen, a starting OF batting leadoff, young SP on spec contract and two lotto tickets for 8.5m investment for 2014. Baseball on a budget, baby! :disco:
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I think RP compensation is way out of whack.
As it is in every league here on ProFSL. I lost my 1st for winning a garbage azz RP in The Bush League.
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Has the FGM Rules Committee looked at this recently?
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Just because people don't like loosing draft picks for signing high value RP is no reason to change a rule. The rule doesn't target one position over another. It's a fair rule and it works. It's getting old that managers call for a rule change every time they don't like the way a specific rule works for there team.
Furthermore, removing RPs from standardized free agent procedure is again going to destroy the market and value of pitchers. Haven't we done that enough? Why not remove RPs completely from the roster? That'd fix the problem too.
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Edwin Encarnacion missed being a Type A free agent by .08 points! He would have been top 10 easily if he had not missed nearly the last most of the season due to injury.
That was definitely a rough one missing him. Ben does have a knack for working the trade market to get compensation picks.
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Has the FGM Rules Committee looked at this recently?
The value of RP's is set based on the scoring breakdown we use from Bill James, an estimate at reflecting true value. The compensation rules are directly from MLB. I've never really looked carefully, but what does the MLB market for RP's look like with respect to compensation? Do most FA RP's that would require lost picks go untouched?
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The value of RP's is set based on the scoring breakdown we use from Bill James, an estimate at reflecting true value. The compensation rules are directly from MLB. I've never really looked carefully, but what does the MLB market for RP's look like with respect to compensation? Do most FA RP's that would require lost picks go untouched?
I would like to make two points:
1. The salary grids were based on real life contracts, and the largest of those contracts were based on relief pitchers who accumulated SAVES, not the stats we are using.
2. I am almost certain that relief pitchers are exempt from first round compensation.
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I would like to make two points:
1. The salary grids were based on real life contracts, and the largest of those contracts were based on relief pitchers who accumulated SAVES, not the stats we are using.
2. I am almost certain that relief pitchers are exempt from first round compensation.
Ding, ding, ding.
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I would like to make two points:
1. The salary grids were based on real life contracts, and the largest of those contracts were based on relief pitchers who accumulated SAVES, not the stats we are using.
2. I am almost certain that relief pitchers are exempt from first round compensation.
1) The saves part doesn't bother me. It's up to real-life GMs to not overpay for saves.
2) If relievers are indeed exempt from first round compensation then we need to fix this ASAP.
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Got a MI at a decent price and had a nice trade now to find a C and we are ready
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Got a MI at a decent price and had a nice trade now to find a C and we are ready
I hope you are not referring to Alcides Escobar who averaged a whopping 1.92 points per game last year at a price of 6M per for 4 years, lol.
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I hope you are not referring to Alcides Escobar who averaged a whopping 1.92 points per game last year at a price of 6M per for 4 years, lol.
I'm referring to him yes I don't expect huge numbers just needed a starter. With that said I expect better then last year